john kumpf's community posts

Two questions.

1.

Free user, I have a v6 host I forgot about.

It showed in the (v7) viewer as "Online" with a yellow triangle alert saying it's the wrong version. I didnt notice the triangle at first.

When I tried to connect the response I got was authentication error. It took me a minute to realize it was a host version problem. I suppose that can't be changed, for example to display a message saying, "Can't connect to outdated v6 host. Upgrade host to v7 or purchase a paid license." without a new version of the viewer software.

2.

Would it be possible with a free v7 license in a v7 viewer, connecting to a v6 host, to allow Remote Install -> Update Host? IE just allow that one operation. This would seem to ease pain for free users while still encouraging them to upgrade to the latest and greatest and most secure version.

Thanks. I tried host7.1.2.0.msi locally and it did NOT work. It was fr om 6.10.10.0 and I think it was agent before it was host. And it may have been an earlier v6 version before that, or even v5.

However I just tried remote install from the viewer with vanilla .msi installer wh ere the host was originally installed 6.10.10.0 to 7.1.2.0 and it worked without a hitch and kept both the Internet ID and the password.

so thanks for that!

I posted to that forum. Very close to uninstalling BD.

Thanks for all the support.

Unfortunately, I am not clear. Can you spell it out for me?

It seems I have 5 options:

• Simple install (dl from website--.msi? or .exe? or I'll never know it's behind the scenes?).
  
• remote upd ate vanilla .msi
  
• remote upd ate MSI Configurator .msi
  
• local install .msi
  
• local install .exe
  

Are you saying that all of these will preserve the Internet ID and Password? (MSI Configurator if I don't click to se t (sic) set those.)

And the remote methods, they will or will not require a user to be present to click on something (Do I have to turn off UAC before hand?)

I used the .msi local install and it forced me (locally) to click Generate New ID. That v6 might have come from an agent before it. And it was a 9-digit, not a 12-digit ID.

I'm sure a lot of people are wondering the same thing.

I don't use Simple install. First of all, I can't tolerate changes in procedure (based on new features and new changes) that often. And upgrading just one host, means I have to upgrade the viewer (probably), which means i have to upgrade all past and current hosts (probably). So it sets off a chain reaction. And it's very time consuming, especially if something goes wrong. Also, it might come up at the start of a support call, wasting the remote person's time. So I have to be judicious with my upgrades.

So, I'm sure there's a lot of users in my situation: wanting an easy way to upgrade and keep all settings.

Also, it allows me to reply to the orphaned topics, and hit reply, with no error. But the replies are not there when I go back into the topic.

EDIT: yes, the replies are there. I got confused because the topic order changed because I replied to an older message and my reply made it newer and moved it up and I didnt see it til now.

On Windows 10, running portable viewer v7.1.2.0 not elevated, free license, running remote install.

Remote Utilities security

Upd ate host

Browse to the host7.1.2.0.msi file on the local computer.

(instructions don't explicitly say the path there is a local path; could be a remote path? I tried both--same result.)

In the Action log window I get:

***** Start of log *****
Date: 2/5/2022 12:36:01 AM
Action: install/upgrade.
Checking files of the Host.
Host files not found!

I have checked the path to the local host7.1.2.0.msi file, and checked its hash against the one on the website download page. Everything checks out. I can execute that .msi file on the local computer. I even copied it and tried to specify the copied file. Same result.

The remote machine is Windows Server 2019 running installed host v6.10.10.0.

I have BitDefender antivirus that is complaining about these files. But I have se t these files as Exclusions and I have BitDefender's real-time protection turned off during this entire operation.

What should I try next?

Can you change the name of this post?

It was because I had double quotes in the title. I had:

using remote install I get "Host files not found!"

It worked without the quotes.

I'm getting the error "Cannot find the first message." while trying to post on this board.

This works for the .msi and the .exe? Eg, host7.1.2.0.msi and host7.1.2.0.exe?